A 4th title with Lakers could reignite GOAT convo for LeBron - Ric Bucher | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

2020 28 سپتامبر
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Ric Bucher joins Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho to discuss the Los Angeles Lakers winning the Western Conference, moving on to face the Miami Heat for the NBA Finals. Bucher tells Wiley and Acho why a 4th title with his 3rd team could mean a lot for LeBron, as it could cause fans to revisit the GOAT conversation.
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  • Will the Lakers sweep the Miami Heat in the NBA Finals?

    Speak For YourselfSpeak For Yourselfپیش ماه
    • THE HEAT ARE DONE AND WILL GET SWEPT!

      Bush WackerBush Wackerپیش 28 روز
    • do not know and do not have any dog in this race.. i do very much like the narrative of a former player competing in the finals against his former team... hats off to whoever wins and good luck to both .. may it prove to be very entertaining for everyone no matter how it ends

      Eff-Dup StuffEff-Dup Stuffپیش ماه
    • @Angel 23 i dont think so because jordans era is way harder..he was literally physically beaten up just not to get there but he still puts up numbers..now you have lots of defensive restrictions that paved way for the offensive player to score easily..Thats just one of the difference between jordan and lebron from getting out of the cage

      Steph BarbosaSteph Barbosaپیش ماه
    • Steph Barbosa no not on my mind because for me Jordan and Lebron are two way different players and for me Lebron win the hard way this era is more athletic better shooters better ball handled

      Angel 23Angel 23پیش ماه
    • @Angel 23 but you have to accept that whenever you brought up lebron, a name michael jordan will never get rid out of your mind

      Steph BarbosaSteph Barbosaپیش ماه
  • ppl don't realize the Warriors have 3 HOFamers cuz they were beating Lebron

    hud1231hud1231پیش 24 روز
  • Jumping from teams to team up with young allstar/superstars? Whats so impressive about that? DWade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Erving, Kevin Love and now Anthony Davis who may already be the 4rd best power forward of all time and like will finish in the top three???gimme a break... even if he wins hes 4-7 thats not what a goat finals record should be

    Robert BRobert Bپیش 27 روز
  • Short memory: - Lebron is the GOAT - After Last Dance, Lebron can NEVER be the GOAT - Lebron winning 1 ring against a bunch of injured players is the GOAT If warriors get called out for playing against injured players, I heard NOTHING about Lillard, Bam and Dragics injury. Lebron would have won anyway? So wouldn't the 73-9 team wouldn't they? Stop being bias. Give Warriors credit, or take Lebrons. Which is it?

    John LeJohn Leپیش 27 روز
  • I'm so sick of people saying that the heat was supposed to beat the mavericks... The Mavericks swept the Lakers which had way better players than the heat... The Mavericks had a better team than the heat regardless...

    Loverboy JayLoverboy Jayپیش 27 روز
  • Steph and KD > LeBron and AD

    Jonah TrillJonah Trillپیش 28 روز
  • Magic and Larry ran the 80s, Jordan the 90s and LeBron the 2000s

    gyasi wynngyasi wynnپیش 29 روز
  • But LeBron is already the GOAT. So how could winning or losing change that?

    George BrathwaiteGeorge Brathwaiteپیش 29 روز
  • Makes no sense hearing the excuses for lebron .. so and songs this coach ... so and so this so and so that lol he did it in 3 diffrent places. Oh my goodness the excuses never stop

    James DawnyJames Dawnyپیش ماه
  • Warriors didn't have a hof coach but the rest is true

    booniekcbooniekcپیش ماه
  • The bubble is an advantage to young players.. But if he loses yes he will take a hit.. But if he wins he should get a massive boost because noone expected him to win.. And finally losing in the finals is better than losing in the first frigin round.. Also Kyrie and Love got injured and couldn't even play in the NBA finals i 2015 if that happened to MJ of course he loses this is soo dumb.. or MJ drags one of the lesser teams to the finals he loses it never happened because he isn't as good

    Joab JohnstoneJoab Johnstoneپیش ماه
  • Lbj got ran out of town three different times and now they twist it S he won with 3 different teams

    Kev DehaarteKev Dehaarteپیش ماه
  • Pretty sure kawhi will to do that.

    Mikhail MatthewMikhail Matthewپیش ماه
  • What’s Ric talking about?

    Austin GreenAustin Greenپیش ماه
  • What rock has Slick been living under? Name one day LeBron hasn’t been compared to Jordan?

    Nu'NuNu'Nuپیش ماه
  • LeBron made it, but he got to win this one. Can’t loose to the Heat.

    Nu'NuNu'Nuپیش ماه
  • If he wins 2 more after this year he is the goat. If he wins one more after miami he is tied. Winning 3 in a row with 3 different franchises while winning the stat war, while having 3 other championships - one against the greatest regular season team ever, better than any team jordan faced - he is the undisputed goat. If he just wins this one and another one somewhere down the line, he tied. This one alone just keeps him in the goat convo - i agree with that.

    noir manoirnoir manoirپیش ماه
  • Marcellus is 100% right.

    Austen DavisAusten Davisپیش ماه
  • Really can't compare MJ and Bron. MJ Bulls were always the favorites in those 6 finals. Bron's teams were only favored 3 tims (out of 10, this year included). 2011 Heat vs. Mavs, 2012 vs OKC and this year. The other 7 times, those teams were the underdogs. 2007 vs Spurs, 2013 & 2014 vs Spurs, 2015-2018 vs GSW.

    Alex Banaag IIAlex Banaag IIپیش ماه
  • I stopped my work because of, *p a i d t o b e h o m e .c o m*

    Jake S SmithJake S Smithپیش ماه
  • Reignite? You idiots never shut up about it

    Shane MondryShane Mondryپیش ماه
  • These Lebron James fanboys are something . So now they basically saying if Lebron James wins with the Lakers he's doing something no other player did. So forget that every team he played on had another superstar but his fanboys are quick to say Jordan had Scotty ,Rodman and Kukoc. but Lebron has Lebron and full of excuses. Nowv this is wishful thinking Wiley because the truth is he played longer to have those stats and accolades. Today rules also cater to offensive, where as the rules was a little more balance.when Jordan played and the game more physical. This great accomplished Lebron James has i thought Bill Russell appear in 12 NBA Finals and won 11 championship and he also won 8 straight and two more as a coach of the Celtics..The facts have become so distorted because today society idolize entertainers figures especially in sports and music. History is not going to forget Lebron James also played with top 20 players when he won his championships just like he played against top 20 players when he loss championships Sam Acho so what is the point you're trying to make. Michael Jordan was constantly criticize when he wasn't winning championships , no one said he was playing against great teams with great players like Boston and Detriot had when they was winning championships and even when he won the narrative was he beat a old teams not to mention that these players played in the same era and wasn't that far apart in actual age. Lebron James is the Peyton Manning of the NBA sure he's going to have the stats and a couple of rings and even hold most record and he should ,he have at least 20 years playing, but he's also going to have those failures when it matter most. The truth is no one can take away his accomplishments but he did fail when it counted most and if we can condemn others stars for going and losing and not having a championship at all ,it matter to win them not 3 out of 9 or 4 out of 10 ,but a winning record when it matter thats greatness overcoming when it matters most regardless of the situation and Michael GOAT 🐐 Jordan has accomplished that when it matter most 6 Championships Wins - 0 Championship Losses facts.

    just sayingjust sayingپیش ماه
  • LeBron is THE GOAT. all real ones know. Other who disagree are phonies.

    ZeroZZeroZپیش ماه
  • Numbers aren’t entertainment. Sports is a form of entertainment. Jordan was awesome because he was the most FUN to watch. If you think Lebron is more fun to watch than Jordan, you aren’t old enough to have watched both of their careers.

    Prairie DogPrairie Dogپیش ماه
  • 'Shout out to the king for ten NBA finals'........uhh my guy, getting there is one thing, winning is another. Why are folk celebrating losing? James has only won 3 out of the last 9. Come back and get excited when he wins more than he loses.

    Unplugged GamingUnplugged Gamingپیش ماه
  • People act like MJ went to the Wizards to lose, MJ thought he still was that dude that could carry a team to a chip even though he never carried a team.

    Mac BenzoMac Benzoپیش ماه
  • this is ridiculous... by that logic if Kawhi wins one with the clippers then we should put him over kareem or shaq becuase they didnt do it with a third team? Im not about to give points for moving from one superteam to another nor am I going to take away from greatness if you did it on only one team... Duncan is not diminished for doing it all in SA, Kobe likewise in LA it rather increases your greatness and it is what you are imploring people like Giannis or Dame to do as well. If Lebron loses to the heat now where the best player is Jimmy Butler with a bunch of rookies while he has a top 3-5 player in the NBA alongside him he will drop down on the list for a lot of people... if he wins, congrats you get to retain your #2 all time status... acho really talking bad about spoelstra like he didnt just make the finals without lebron or wade or bosh and also about Ty Lue who he has been championing to be HC of the clippers.. and rick is trying to tell me now theres an asterisk because of the bubble?? does that also apply then if lebron wins?? will he get an asterisk next to his "3 finals mvps with 3 teams*"?

    Jorge Carlos Torres DobarroJorge Carlos Torres Dobarroپیش ماه
  • I don't owe anyone anymore thanks to, *p a i d t o b e h o m e .c o m*

    hale matehale mateپیش ماه
  • ONE THING THAT LEBRON TAKE A BAD TEAM AND TAKE IT TO THE FINALS LIKE CLEVELAND,MIAMI AND LAKERS .MIAMI WAS OK BUT LEBRON MAKE THEM SUPER BETTER CLEVELAND ALWAYS IS THE WORST TEAM IN THE NBA WITHOUT LEBRON AND LAKERS LAST PLAYOFF WAS 9 YEARS AGO

    Angel 23Angel 23پیش ماه
  • There’s an excusable reason to losing in the finals. All I been hearing about Lebrons competition in the playoff is if they aren’t good they wouldn’t be in the playoffs. But make excuses in the finals. At least MJ and Kobe won most of their rings in the first 10 years!! Lebron only had gotten his rings in the second decade of his career... MIA had more than 3 y’all of famers!! Cavs had 3 future hall of famers, Lakers got 4 future hall of famers. LBJ, AD, Dwight, Rondo! He always had allstar or hall of fame help since he went to MIA! Besides last year but look at what he did, got rid of the fresh young talent to get the best players he could.

    Chico B.Chico B.پیش ماه
  • Wiley’s Take is terrible

    Storminmormn6Storminmormn6پیش ماه
  • How TF is accomplishing less in more time make you better than someone else?

    Jason SpadesJason Spadesپیش ماه
  • How did the last dance do anything for how people felt about Jordan? Plus it was green lighted by Jordan if I made a doc about me it would be flattering as well

    GFH MikeJetGFH MikeJetپیش ماه
  • I rarely watch this show and looking at this reinforces my decision

    M BoydM Boydپیش ماه
  • When people witness mj in his time..everybody hands down declared jordan as the greatest ever.. Now this is lebrons era, but he and his fans cant get rid of the name Michael Jordan

    Steph BarbosaSteph Barbosaپیش ماه
    • @Everlasting Love that’s your favorite but how many people besides you proclaimed Dominique as the best? Not many compared to Jordan and we saw Jordan dominate his competition in a tough era.

      CHCHپیش 23 روز
    • @Everlasting Love i respect your thoughts brother..but what can you say bout lebron being the greatest ever?

      Steph BarbosaSteph Barbosaپیش ماه
    • No MJ was never the greatest in his era. The NBA tried to thrust him up on us! But I didn’t fall for the okey-doke!! Dominique Wilkins was always my favorite in that era.

      Everlasting LoveEverlasting Loveپیش ماه
  • Ric move on hahaha... 3-1

    redentor madioredentor madioپیش ماه
  • Do we agree that bill Russell is the goat becuz he won more rings?

    Archie KarzearArchie Karzearپیش ماه
  • Marcellus always talking while acho speaking is getting annoying

    MYTAKESMYTAKESپیش ماه
  • 3rd short season with a 3 month hiatus.....losers always think 2nd is winning lol

    Mike NikonsukMike Nikonsukپیش ماه
  • Nope 6 and 0...is always better then 2nd plc......3 ritles with 2 teams..good job BUT still can not catch mj cuz he is a loser 3 and 6..4 and 7 is still losing

    Mike NikonsukMike Nikonsukپیش ماه
  • only one GOAT....MJ.

    Antone FulmerAntone Fulmerپیش ماه
  • I cant understand why are you so much into LBJ bringing the LAKERS back to the Championship hey dude lets give credit to the other additions especially AD who carried LBJ in some crucial games and RONDO. Lets be real If LBJ alone transferred with the original loosing roster and Won a championship then it would even be better. MJ doesn't need to transfer to other team because he knows he can win championship with the BULLS.

    adonis rumbaoaadonis rumbaoaپیش ماه
  • I don't care if he lives to be 80 and wins 40 titles, he will never be the goat.

    Wayne SWayne Sپیش ماه
    • Really?

      booniekcbooniekcپیش ماه
  • "The Last Dance stopped LeBron being in the GOAT conversation." Meanwhile actual polls have been done and WAY more people think LeBron is the GOAT now than before the documentary came out ...

    Nicolas AlcaldeNicolas Alcaldeپیش ماه
  • Acho starts his argument by saying most of lebrons finals loses don't count???lol oh man lebron apologists are insane

    FullmetalFullmetalپیش ماه
  • 3-6 thats the only knock on him

    Symmond SantosSymmond Santosپیش ماه
  • i didn't even watch the video, just came here to dislike based on the title. 👎

    top notch sportstop notch sportsپیش ماه
  • so what if Bron was 3-0 in finals with six conference finals losses?? 👀

    Ragab MfaumeRagab Mfaumeپیش ماه
  • STOP IT! “LEBRON JAMES” is the greatest player to ever play the game! Michael Jordan was in a perfect situation to look like the greatest player, but he was not! MICHAEL JORDAN rode on the GREATNESS of THE CHICAGO BULLS TEAM! MICHAEL JORDAN rode on the GREATNESS of THE GREATEST COACH ever, Phil Jackson! MICHAEL JORDAN rode on the shrewd GREATNESS of JERRY KRAUSE, the TEAMS GENERAL MANAGER! MICHAEL JORDAN rode on the GENIUS MARKETING of NIKE INC, and FLEW in the AIR JORDAN SHOE BRAND to a global iconic SUPERSTAR. The FALSE GREATNESS of MICHAEL JEFFERY JORDAN is a deceitfully crafted figment of our collective imaginations, by PROFIT driven forces (NBA inc, and NIKE inc) who went to extraordinary lengths to MAXIMIZE PROFIT, and extract every penny out of a very valuable commodity known as “MICHAEL JORDAN”. So what is “MICHAEL JORDAN”? Michael Jordan is the GREATEST of the GREAT scorers to ever play the game of basketball, and that’s all he is. Like his teammates, MICHEAL JORDAN was a part of a great situation in which he excelled, but outside of that great situation Michael Jordan didn’t prove anything except he was merely the greatest scorer among great scorers. “HAIL TO THE KING👑! LEBRON IS THE GOAT! LONG LIVE KING JAMES!”

    Adolph DooleyAdolph Dooleyپیش ماه
    • 617 Bred - please send your brain through the rinse cycle, and rinse out all of your MJ indoctrination! You mis-represent the stats because you don’t know how to read stats, or properly interpret stats. Advanced stats are broken down into all sorts of categories, like minutes played; shots taken; games played; years played, etc,... so when properly manipulating the stats without injecting personal biases, Michael Jordan stature as the goat disappears, because his advanced stats are no better than any other great player, and they certainly don’t rise to goat status.

      Adolph DooleyAdolph Dooleyپیش ماه
    • 617 Bred - you brain-washed CLOWN! “The Last Dance” was not a documentary, it was a docudrama! MJ has always been surrounded by carefully crafted drama to make him appear GREAT! But he is an over-hyped, over advertised shoe salesman. A pair of AIR JORDAN’S anyone?

      Adolph DooleyAdolph Dooleyپیش ماه
    • LeBron has manufacture individuals on his clutch sports payroll to boost his stock in all time greats hierarchy. Please tell me when Jordan placed ppl in the media to push his narrative, when he in fact hated the media and still does. Question, what's Phil's resume before Chicago? Mike was in the ECFs before Phil arrived. He's great because of Mike, not the other way around. And as for Mike being "just a great scorer" he's the 2nd best sg in blocks, Wade passed him in more seasons, top 5 sg in assists all time, 2nd all time in rebs, Kobe passed him in more seasons, we all know where he ranks in steals, fg%. Please do more research instead of posting some biased opinion, with very little facts

      617 Bred617 Bredپیش ماه
    • Perfect situation for MJ? Please stop it and go watch the last dance doc again

      617 Bred617 Bredپیش ماه
  • Rapaport.. you are soooo wronggggg.. you said lakers not gonna reach the finals..

    J. BrunoJ. Brunoپیش ماه
  • Robert Horry and John Sale both has 3 rings from 3 different teams don’t matter if their all stars or not it’s facts

    Joel BrownJoel Brownپیش ماه
    • @Joel Brown Robert Horry was a MAJOR contributor to some of those championships so he deserves to be recognized but a player whose was just a part of the team and made little to no on court/field contributions can go puffing out his chest saying he got this many rings

      Big MoBig Moپیش ماه
    • @Big Mo what it means is the NBA is full of professional athletes no matter how their stats are it’s players accomplished what Lebron and Kawhi trying to do if you were in the league you would want to be recognized all star or bench player it’s a team game but certain players have been on the right teams Robert Horry has 7 regardless and non one can take that away from him

      Joel BrownJoel Brownپیش ماه
    • Joel Brown what do you mean it doesn’t matter, there are role players and then there are stars/leaders. I’m sure there are players on professional teams that have 2-3 rings and only touched the floor/field during garbage time the ENTIRE time they were on the teams, them having rings is not the same as aLebron James, KD, Tom Brady having rings

      Big MoBig Moپیش ماه
  • Who’s better Michael Jordan or phill Jackson..... seems to me phill Jackson is the answer

    Just Tyson DeenJust Tyson Deenپیش ماه
    • Robert Horry is never brought up in GOAT conversations 7/7 perfect Finals record. Is Horry better than Jordan using rings only logic?

      sgnjr3sgnjr3پیش 29 روز
    • Phil made all the shots. And Phil is not the one who came up with the triangle. Look it up. Did it work in New York

      Adrian TAdrian Tپیش ماه
  • He'll just pass Larry Bird, right behind Magic. Everybody chill.

    The Airport ChauffeurThe Airport Chauffeurپیش ماه
    • @MyNoseisDirty Its very EZ. Put up the Jordan h8, and look at his accomplishments. In short, Jordan only had Pippen. These other guys had multiple SuperSTARS/All-STARS! Jordan stands alone, with only one other Star! The last year they beat Utah, Pippen missed 35 games, AND DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE ALL-STAR TEAM. IF some of these people on here did the PROPER RESEARCH, we'd save so much time!

      The Airport ChauffeurThe Airport Chauffeurپیش 27 روز
    • @MyNoseisDirty You sure you wanna know???

      The Airport ChauffeurThe Airport Chauffeurپیش 27 روز
    • The Airport Chauffeur you know as well as I do that you’re out of your league in this interaction. Pleasure

      Goddrew WigginsGoddrew Wigginsپیش 27 روز
    • The Airport Chauffeur why is bill Russell not first in hypothetical? He has 5 more rings than mj..... why aren’t you using the same metrics that you are using to measure Lebron. Also Lebron has more titles than Hakeem so why would he be ahead even with a Lebron lost?

      MyNoseisDirtyMyNoseisDirtyپیش 27 روز
    • @Goddrew Wiggins Sorry, must've been above your head. Take care of yourself.

      The Airport ChauffeurThe Airport Chauffeurپیش 29 روز
  • Other than dallas name time when any team equel to lbj team that he was 6-12 in playoffs against same team.

    Robert westRobert westپیش ماه
  • How about Jordan not winning the play offs until he got scottie pippen???? is The goat jordan is weak

    Killua ZordicKillua Zordicپیش ماه
  • I love their outro music more than their takes

    Денис МалинкаДенис Малинкаپیش ماه
  • Im never impressed with whatever Ric Says.

    Ivan RoqueIvan Roqueپیش ماه
  • GOAT JAMES 👑🏀❤️💪 FACT

    Joman Joe RazonableJoman Joe Razonableپیش ماه
  • Win % in the Finals is an overrated/misunderstood stat. Most people believe that, say, 6-0 is better than 6-2. It is NOT.

    Calvin ChambersCalvin Chambersپیش ماه
    • @Lambert Aie Agreed. As I've said in other comments, if you tell me MJ is the GOAT, that is an extremely reasonable statement and most people would I agree with you. I happen to have a different opinion, based on various other observations, but that is certainly valid. I just hate when people think the only argument is rings.

      Calvin ChambersCalvin Chambersپیش 26 روز
    • Calvin Chambers I get what you’re saying. Rings definitely aren’t the only thing that matter, but ones who say that act as if Michael Jordan doesn’t have impressive stats as well. Averaged the most amount of points ever 30.1 more than even Wilt Chamberlin who was a walking mismatch ( not as a shot jacket either 49% career percentage average including wizard years) not just 6 rings but 6 finals MVPs ( most amount ever). People say he had no competition On his champion ship runs he beat 13 teams that won 50+ games, and 7 teams that won 60+ games. 5 regular MVPs, 9 time defensive first team, 3 time steals leader, 14 out of 15 years played all star. Definitely not saying LeBron not great, he’s a top-five player of all time. But I just think comparing him to Jordan he’s silly, they’re clearly not on the same level.

      Lambert AieLambert Aieپیش 27 روز
    • @Lambert Aie But would it be better than 6-6? Only in the minds of people who A. Don't quite get it and B. Think that rings is all that matters when it comes to deciding who is the GOAT. Those are people who I don't want to waste my time arguing with because they don't recognize the 11 rings by Russell, the 8 rings by Havlicek, or the 7 rings by Horry.

      Calvin ChambersCalvin Chambersپیش 27 روز
    • Calvin Chambers it’s better than 3-6

      Lambert AieLambert Aieپیش 27 روز
  • Asterisk? Bro foh everyone is dealing with the same conditions.

    Guillermo SaavedraGuillermo Saavedraپیش ماه
  • Lebron could win 4 more rings and fmvps and the haters/old heads would still find any reason to tell us why MJ is better. Pointless debate but anyone who’s played basketball knows the truth...

    irGuiltyirGuiltyپیش ماه
  • How could it be reignited if that's all these Talking Heads talk about all the time? Lol, but in my opinion no, but a fourth ring with another excellent performance would move him past Duncan and magic for me

    El JefeEl Jefeپیش ماه
  • Stupid add media always putting the narrative against lebron

    Guillermo SaavedraGuillermo Saavedraپیش ماه
  • every premise on this show for the lakers is...."what if they lose" they won their last 3 series in 5 game, how about "with if they win"

    JakeemJakeemپیش ماه
  • Are you that type of guy with the 6-6 MJ fanboy? Why hasn't been able to go to 10 finals appearance so it'll be 10-10? or the Blind Lebron Fanboy? The argument should be the CORE star players with more rings + stats, I am a fan of Lebron, but I won't put him above MJ if he only got 3 rings Lebron Finals Opponents: MAVs (Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry, Marion) OKC (KD, Harden, Westbrook) SAS (Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Leonard) GSW (Curry, Thompson, Green, Durant) MJ Finals Opponents: DET (Thomas, Dumars, Rodman) ORL (Shaq, Hardaway) NYK (Ewing, Stark) IND (Miller, Smits) LAL (Worthy, M.Jhonson) UTA (Malone, Stockton) POR (Drexler, Porter) SEA (Payton, Kemp) PHX (Barkley, K.Johnson) Lebron fought against better opponents compared to MJ with a very loose officiating, Lebron would break bones against those old teams with his body if the officiating wasn't so soft today.

    Mark SMark Sپیش ماه
    • mj is very loosely officiated i can tell examples of many incidents such as fight with reggie miller while later was given technical there is nothing on mj and even magic johnson if you touch mj it's foul. mj is baby compared to lebron in strength and toughness if weak mj can endure it no problem for lbj

      Gowtham Varma DantuluriGowtham Varma Dantuluriپیش ماه
  • Acho come on. If he loses this year he's not out the GOAT conversation lol, he's not retiring. He can lose this year then win the next 5 in a row. It's not likely but it's possible. Have faith young Acho.

    Darius ClarkDarius Clarkپیش ماه
  • The last dance didn’t end anything clown and I love MJ. MJ & Lebron Co GOAT and I’ve seen all their games

    Jacob DoehrmanJacob Doehrmanپیش ماه
  • The Last Dance CAN'T be part of the argument lol. Was Lebron getting beat in The Last Dance? Did it show Lebron's triumphs and compare them? Come on let's be serious

    Darius ClarkDarius Clarkپیش ماه
    • Missing the point... Most of LBJ fans have never seen MJ playing a single game. It was just reminder who he really was for all under 30yrs old.

      unclebobrules72unclebobrules72پیش ماه
  • Rare, 1 in a trillion W from Ric Bucher.

    Bronze Man XBronze Man Xپیش ماه
  • If Lebron wins his 7th, i'll put him above MJ

    Mark SMark Sپیش ماه
    • @Gowtham Varma Dantuluri Are you that type of guy with the 6-6 MJ fanboy? Why hasn't been able to go to 10 finals appearance so it'll be 10-10? or the Blind Lebron Fanboy? The argument should be the CORE star players with more rings + stats, I am a fan of Lebron, but I won't put him above MJ if he only got 3 rings Lebron Finals Opponents: MAVs (Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry, Marion) OKC (KD, Harden, Westbrook) SAS (Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Leonard) GSW (Curry, Thompson, Green, Durant) MJ Finals Opponents: DET (Thomas, Dumars, Rodman) ORL (Shaq, Hardaway) NYK (Ewing, Stark) IND (Miller, Smits) LAL (Worthy, M.Jhonson) UTA (Malone, Stockton) POR (Drexler, Porter) SEA (Payton, Kemp) PHX (Barkley, K.Johnson) Lebron fought against better opponents compared to MJ with a very loose officiating, Lebron would break bones against those old teams with his body if the officiating wasn't so soft today.

      Mark SMark Sپیش ماه
    • so is robert horry is above mj because he won 7 rings

      Gowtham Varma DantuluriGowtham Varma Dantuluriپیش ماه
  • He did take a "hit" because you guys hold his finals record against him when y'all Kno his 1st appearance was against the spurs and pop.. he had no chance to win so u can't use that as a metric because that means off rip LeBron didn't even have a chance to be the "greatest" and it's a way to diminish what he actually did.. which was something even Jordan couldn't do. This is why media and the narrative that gets out is important.. they dragged* LeBron's name for decades now and it's all unjustified bs instead of telling the truth and giving him his due while he's still playing.. now when its all said n done they gonna say "see.. he was no Michael Jordan 🤡" just so it can fit their own bs narratives ?

    I DI Dپیش ماه
    • He lost to two over stacked golden states teams with kd. Then lost to golden state one time when Kyrie and klove were injured. 4 of his 6 losses he realistically didn’t have a chance to win but because he’s LeBron James he DID have a chance.

      King iBeezeyKing iBeezeyپیش ماه
  • Lebron also gotta keep taking those steroids 💉💉🤫🤫🤫🤫

    Jason DalzellJason Dalzellپیش ماه
    • @Jason Dalzell no your just a hater... and mike played great at 35 why cant lebron because he more athletic at his age??? Your a clown

      MooNMan 050MooNMan 050پیش ماه
    • @MooNMan 050 ohh poor guy...ur slow to the game huh

      Jason DalzellJason Dalzellپیش ماه
    • Gtfoh

      MooNMan 050MooNMan 050پیش ماه
  • So what’s happens when the Lakers go back 2 back?

    Bobby JohnsonBobby Johnsonپیش ماه
  • If LeBron truly was the GOAT, we would have known it a long time ago. There is nothing LeBron can do to achieve GOAT status simply because it's not WHO he is. The GOAT is about domination, killer mentality, ability to win, accomplishments etc. He can win another 10 titles and it won't increase his status to GOAT level. Increasing his points, assists, etc isn't going to do anything. LeBron is trying to artificially increase his status by breaking longevity records, but that's not how this works. That being said, I like LeBron he's great but people are so blind.

    Joe S.Joe S.پیش ماه
  • Lol imagen me being this age and not think LeBron is the goat. Like man i never seen even one match ya MJ. King James a Goat!!!

    Mad Pun057Mad Pun057پیش ماه
  • People like to say lbj went against super teams, well lbj has been on super teams so no excuses. Jordan better stayed on 1 team & beat more 50 & 60 win teams in the playoffs. Also beat hall of famers. Shaq got swept by Jordan, he triple dubbed magic in 91, & beat Stockton, Malone, Gary Payton etc. wat top 5 player of all time lbj beat ? I’ll wait.... 73 win team bs they were hurt & had no center & iggy had back spasm

    FwckinFwckinپیش ماه
    • @Nicolas Alcalde your dumb, magic Johnson & shaq definitely top 5 all time.

      FwckinFwckinپیش ماه
    • None of those guys you named are even on anyone's top 10 list.

      Nicolas AlcaldeNicolas Alcaldeپیش ماه
  • I was js if LeBron loses this will justify (what I seem to be irrelevant in debating between better players) this "finals record" argument held against him. He has to come thru there's no historic juggernaut in his path this time and his own team came out the west in the regular season and now the post season.

    I DI Dپیش ماه
  • 2-3zone for the king..checkmate!

    Greggy bayoGreggy bayoپیش ماه
    • F% OUTTA HERE SWISH !!!!!! LBJ !!!!WHEN EVER THESE SUCKAS TRY TO CLOG THE LANE

      IN THE KONSCIOUS HEBREWIN THE KONSCIOUS HEBREWپیش ماه
    • Zone so I think you want Lebron to average 20 assist off lobs

      Born To HoopBorn To Hoopپیش ماه
  • Anyone who thinks Lebron is better didn't watch basketball in the 90s or doesn't remember and likes riding hype trains.

    Poor RandallPoor Randallپیش ماه
  • If Jonathan Isaac and Aaron Gordon didn’t get injured Orlando would be in finals 🤞🏾🤞🏾💫💫

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  • Lebron hasn’t passed Kobe and I’m not even a Laker fan

    SoCal GolfSoCal Golfپیش ماه
  • Lebron needs 6 rings to overtake mj. He’s had many chances and needs to capitalize on all of them from now on. Anymore losses in finals and he’s still top 2-5

    bigboner23bigboner23پیش ماه
    • Nobody was beating that warriors team with k.d stop it

      MooNMan 050MooNMan 050پیش ماه
  • Best show period right now!!!!!

    BLK MAMBABLK MAMBAپیش ماه
  • People acting like LeBron is doing this by himself. LeBron has not been the linchpin of the Lakers throughout the Playoffs. Will Danny Green status elevate if he wins another title for the third different team? I guess not. With the four title, LeBron will become number 2 ever and seal his position over other greats. 4 of 10 is not great. Even if he goes for 5 of 11. To be the GOAT he should at least go 7 of 13.

    NKruman SantosNKruman Santosپیش ماه
    • Robert Horry is a goat with 7 rings lol

      Jeffrey SebastianJeffrey Sebastianپیش ماه
  • No. Never. You cant reignite something that never existed in the first place. 6 will still beat 4 all day everyday and twice on monday thru sunday. He still lost 6 finals 4th title or not. But you know who didnt lose 6 finals.........Jordan Kobe Magic Kareem Bird Hakeem Russell Wilt Duncan and Shaq.

    Brady BryantBrady Bryantپیش ماه
  • I wish the clippers was still in it.... they would have won in 10 😂

    Larry StandiferLarry Standiferپیش ماه
  • Whats sad is all these clowns on these shows ever talk about is bron and jordan who's the goat lol. It will always be the conversation because they at the top. 3-6 in finals or not

    mike oxmallmike oxmallپیش ماه
  • It matters why???

    Brian BenallyBrian Benallyپیش ماه
  • I really feel like the lakers going win but watch they give the mvp to ADso lebron can’t be the first player to win 3 MVP’s on 3 different teams watch I bet money if lebron has crazy numbers he won’t get the mvp

    lito datlito datپیش ماه
  • Did Marcellus just say that he thinks LeBron is the GOAT 🐐????? 🤔 .. Wait what?? .. I'm confused?? Smh .. I've definitely been taken him for a LeBron hater haa ha 🥴🤦🏾‍♂️

    JordanLeeBrownJordanLeeBrownپیش ماه
  • He will never be on MJ LEVEL he's not even on KOBE level!!!!!!! FOH

    Jackson 7177Jackson 7177پیش ماه
  • The way he said bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro though. 😂

    Captain EyebrowsCaptain Eyebrowsپیش ماه
  • This is Lebrons most important moment in his career. He has everything to gain and everything to lose.

    Captain EyebrowsCaptain Eyebrowsپیش ماه
    • Bobby Smith he didn’t deliver 2011 and I love bron

      Zach OstroffZach Ostroffپیش ماه
    • I agree, but he has been in this spot before and delivered. Game 6 vs Boston in 2012, game 7 vs spurs in 2013, and game 7 vs warriors in 2016. All these were must wind and he delivered. I think this will be another one of those instances

      Bobby SmithBobby Smithپیش ماه
    • I wouldn’t say everything to gain but he’s gotta win it and I think he can

      Zach OstroffZach Ostroffپیش ماه
    • Facts especially with the passing of Kobe it’s like it’s destined for him to win & I believe he will get it done

      lito datlito datپیش ماه
  • Jordan quit the league twice in his prime. FOH, you can’t rewrite that history

    SpartanK07SpartanK07پیش ماه
    • @Legacy burning Keep being delusional fan boy about your fake goat.... you didn't win not even one sentence from this so called debate.. so keep on dreaming.....

      Rick PersaudRick Persaudپیش 20 روز
    • @Rick Persaud dam i reread out debate and you got absolutely waxed my god what a decisive victory on my end i had you reeling in disarray.

      Legacy burningLegacy burningپیش 21 روز
    • @Legacy burning Sure buddy you have a dangerous obsession/man crush go get help is unhealthy. On your way to get help find me evidence of your false consensus goat. Just because you say it doesn't make it real. So keep dreaming.....

      Rick PersaudRick Persaudپیش ماه
    • @Rick Persaud you have no point's to make so you resort to name calling which is a clear sign you have lost this debate. michael jordan is the consensus goat it is what it is.

      Legacy burningLegacy burningپیش ماه
    • @Legacy burning Waste of time talking a brainless child. You here putting asterisk on Russell and any other players but when we put asterisk on what MJ did is the end of the world. Before you call anyone out you should look at your hypocrite self. Now go cry because your so called almighty goat is not real. You're mind is so much sharper really... 😂😂🤮🤮

      Rick PersaudRick Persaudپیش ماه
  • I’m sorry if Lebron loses again I’m done with Lebron.

    Captain EyebrowsCaptain Eyebrowsپیش ماه
  • Jordan faced Drexler in Portland Malone and Stockton in Utah in the finals he faced Payton and Kemp in the finals he face Barkley in the finals he faced Worthy and Magic in the finals that’s 8 hall of famers in the finals he has faced While Lebron faced Parker Ginobili Duncan and Pop 3 hall of famers and a hall of fame coach He faced spurs again with Leonard Parker Duncan and Ginobili and Pop again with 4 hall of famers and a hall of fame coach He faced GSW with Curry Dray and Klay 3 hall of famers and than Durant one year that’s 4 hall of famers He faced Nowitzki in Dallas and a hall of famer coach He faced OKC with Russ Harden and Durant in 2013 3 hall of famers That’s 18 hall of famers in the finals Lebron has competed against and 3 hall of fame coaches while Mj has only faced 8 and in every series he was a clear favourite in most of them while Lebron was only a favourite 2 times

    Igor NovakovicIgor Novakovicپیش ماه
    • So KD and Russ and Harden were playing at HOF level, they just got into the league!! They barely had 10 years in the league when they played and they already was a HOF’er lmao you sound dumb! Your math is off too. He faced the spurs team twice, same players... in MIA he had 4 HOF in LBJ , D Wade, Bosh and Ray Allen. So they match up with the Spurs, have more Allstars than the Thunders and the Mavs so what’s your point!? Against the Warriors it wasn’t until they had KD that you can say they were more talented but they had Draymond as their big man before that! You make no point with this lmao only time he was out talented was when he got swept the first time

      Chico B.Chico B.پیش ماه
    • @B. Chandler I hear you but that's a bad argument. Having a title as a player doesnt make you a good coach.

      Mr VeeMr Veeپیش ماه
    • The Mavs also had Jason Kidd who is a definite hall of famer and Marion who might even make it.

      Nicolas AlcaldeNicolas Alcaldeپیش ماه
    • @B. Chandler The NBA owes Lebron 4 coach of the year awards... I can coach the man to a finals myself because he does all the work and i will get the credit for it

      War Age TVWar Age TVپیش ماه
    • Oh, since LeBron has faced NBA Finals opponents with HC amassing 12 titles before their matchup, how many of Jordan’s Finals opponent Head Coach’s have Title experience? Take a guess? 1. Paul Westphal, 70’s Suns as a player. Mike Dunleavy Sr and he aging Lakers, Rick Attleman and the “Just happy to be here” Trailblazers”, No defense playing Suns and Paul Westphal in ‘93. The “just happy to be here” Scared Sonics in ‘96 Finals with George Karl and Jerry Sloane and his Big 3 with an average age of 34; which is old today...ancient then. Jordan faced good individual players in Barkley, Drexler, Malone, Stockton, Payton, Kemp, Magic and Worthy. But none of THOSE teams will go down as an all time great opponent. LeBron faced 2 All-time franchises, one that revolutionized how we play the game of basketball.

      B. ChandlerB. Chandlerپیش ماه
  • Boa constrict him! 🐍 😂

    Marcus RyanMarcus Ryanپیش ماه
  • Reignite it? That's all you media people talk about literally every day the same convo lmao

    Frank DoggFrank Doggپیش ماه
    • nah...last year Kawhi, years before, KD or Steph...etc...Lebron hasn't even won in a minute now...

      boricuafricanboricuafricanپیش ماه
    • Facts. Mad tv personalities already have him as the goat

      Ball OutBall Outپیش ماه
  • I love the comment that lebron is trying to win by points because he can't knock him out.

    Yahs WayYahs Wayپیش ماه
  • LBJ haters act like its better to lose in the first round than in the finals...

    jfhayeurjfhayeurپیش ماه
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