Did LeBron get snubbed in the MVP race? - Wiley & Acho discuss | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

2020 18 سپتامبر
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Milwaukee Bucks' Giannis Antetokounmpo wins second consecutive MVP award today. LeBron James came in 2nd in votes. Ric Bucher, Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho discuss whether LeBron was snubbed in the MVP race.
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Did LeBron get snubbed in the MVP race? - Wiley & Acho discuss | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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  • Did LeBron deserve MVP more than Giannis Antetokounmpo?

    Speak For YourselfSpeak For Yourselfپیش ماه
    • Earl Glock: all due respect, yes, he was. Tom, Wesley, & Gronkowski were 3 of the main constants during the Pat’s championship seasons. & since the QB is the hub for football teams everywhere it’s fair to say Tom was one of the most valuable players.

      Lexo FlexoLexo Flexoپیش ماه
    • Bayani Yan: All due respect Wiley’s points actually makes more sense than Skin’s. Skip kinda shy’s away or isn’t consistent with his key points. Wiley doesn’t have that problem.

      Lexo FlexoLexo Flexoپیش ماه
    • Scratchmane: other than assist Giannis stats are still better than LBJ. This show is purely for entertainment purposes. Which is why Acho’s points really don’t make sense bc both he & the rest of the media knows what their watching. That’s why he’s keeps avoiding AD name when making a point or a refute.

      Lexo FlexoLexo Flexoپیش ماه
    • Acho’s not making any sense?! KD & Curry didn’t win any MVP‘s while winning together. Or is it bc AD hasn’t won an MVP so it’s ok for LBJ to win another one?! 🙄excuses excuses?!

      Lexo FlexoLexo Flexoپیش ماه
    • What is going on in the bubble is a clear indication that this so called analyst had it so wrong On LBJ as much as anything they predict on.

      TMJ AppahTMJ Appahپیش ماه
  • So LeBron s argument for MVP is the eye test ????? Giannis played better than Bron 2thirds of the regular season. Fact. Giannis had better numbers than Bron during the regular season. Fact. Giannis had a better PER than Bron during the regular season.Fact. Giannis played elite defense during the regular season. Bron didnt. Fact. Giannis s team had the regular season best record. Fact. Giannis has average team mates around him, Bron has AD and a stacked roster. Fact. So anybody who says that LeBron got snubbed in the MVP race is either unintelligent or a Bron fanboy. Fact!!!

    Dimitris SalepisDimitris Salepisپیش 8 روز
  • So giannis and Ad whets happening ...

    James DawnyJames Dawnyپیش 29 روز
  • *In the nerdiest voice* "Ok let me crunch these numbers, I did go to Columbia" I love it

    ThisNameIsFakeThisNameIsFakeپیش ماه
  • They have a good relationship together. They're fun to watch and don't get too worked up with themselves.

    ThisNameIsFakeThisNameIsFakeپیش ماه
  • People need to stop trippin' In the 1987-88 season Michael Jordan won the MVP and DOP. In the 2019-20 season Giannis Antetokounmpo won the MVP and the DOP. They *BOTH* lost 4-1 in the second-round of the playoffs. The Lakers won the NBA title that year. The Lakers most likely with win the NBA title this year. Some people though Magic Johnson deserved the MVP over Jordan back then for the exact-same excuses people are using for LeBron over Giannis now. History repeats itself and if it continues on the same-trajectory, there will be a moment where Giannis dethrones LeBron head-to-head in the Finals to leave no doubt on who the best-player or "most-valuable" player in the NBA is.

    D2K PrimeD2K Primeپیش ماه
  • Two football players talking basketball 🤨

    staxsumstaxsumپیش ماه
  • LeOncye faked an injury last year.

    DaQueen713DaQueen713پیش ماه
  • I'm a LeBron fan, but he did not get snubbed. If anything, Anthony Davis was snubbed. He deserved to be an MVP candidate over James Harden. Giannis simply had a better season than LeBron.

    Urbain DelvaUrbain Delvaپیش ماه
  • Don't you dare zoom in!...LOL

    Robert RuckerRobert Ruckerپیش ماه
  • Giannis dpoy , better stats, their only argument is playoffs or lebron in his 17th year

    coldskin1coldskin1پیش ماه
  • The flaw is not announcing the MVP right after the regular season. Always thought that was stupid.

    Good DoctorGood Doctorپیش ماه
  • Again, Whitlock left & they replaced him with a HUUUUUGE FAN BOY BRONSEXUAL🙄🙄

    Rashawn FredricksRashawn Fredricksپیش ماه
  • ridiculous argument... its not like lebron did anything special in those 8 games to put himself above Giannis anyway yet this guy about to tell me that 8 games made a difference as far as MVP??? talk to me when AD isnt leading the team in ALL statistical categories except assists.. talk to me when you realize lebron didnt even make the playoffs until AD got there.. Lebron also won his MVPs in the east dont seem to recall you saying it was a cake walk.. why now? btw since you are a 'historian' of the game, let me remind you that the years that he did win MVP, lebron didnt make the finals.. Also, Slick Rick came on this exact show after the bucks won and said "it doesnt mean much because the heats defensive gameplan is built to stop Giannis, if Giannis isnt there, the plan changes" hence the bucks getting railed the game after... also you saw 1 game from the bucks imagine a seasons worth, you think Middleton is taking them to the playoffs with Donte Divincenzo as his robin??? this is a joke

    Jorge Carlos Torres DobarroJorge Carlos Torres Dobarroپیش ماه
  • 2 well spoken athletes? 🤔

    CDubCDubپیش ماه
  • I personally believe that if your the second option for your team and yet your still the best player on the court then that says allot more then being the first option and being the best player on the court.

    Jake LA ponderJake LA ponderپیش ماه
  • Lebron was healthy when the lakers were 2 games out of the 8th seed in late january..he also said himself he was activating playoff mode and he still missed playoffs..stop using him hurt as an excuse..AD took a non playoff team to the best he is the Real MVP!!

    Riot Or dietRiot Or dietپیش ماه
  • in 2009 2010 when LeBron won back to back MVP's Kobe Bryant won back to back championships and could of won over LeBron. it's the same with Giannis over LeBron.

    Smoove TalkSmoove Talkپیش ماه
  • Acho? Why does this guy have this job?

    VeinyDickTracyVeinyDickTracyپیش ماه
  • Ric what did you drink today ?

    Ronald LovelaceRonald Lovelaceپیش ماه
  • So the last year of Lebron in Cleveland was not counted...... Hmmmmmmmmm.......

    himos 784himos 784پیش ماه
  • These fanboys lebron has AD if kd couldn't win with curry no lebron these people 🤦‍♂️🤮

    Chris GordonChris Gordonپیش ماه
  • Simple: Because in today's WORLD, COMMON SENSE NO longer applies...smh😒

    Tanya SalasTanya Salasپیش ماه
  • AD got snubbed more than lebron

    F ESPNF ESPNپیش ماه
  • That's so true 🤔

    Johnnie CorpeningJohnnie Corpeningپیش ماه
  • Every body dislike 😡 Lerbon 🤔 that's so crazy 😜

    Johnnie CorpeningJohnnie Corpeningپیش ماه
  • Middleton won that game, not the Bucks. Bucks were trash.

    DingisMaximusDingisMaximusپیش ماه
  • Be 💯

    Jamaine BrownJamaine Brownپیش ماه
  • Thank God Whitlock is gone, now I can watch this show.

    Random CommentRandom Commentپیش ماه
  • If u seen the stats clearly he wasn’t snubbed

    Jahfi Ls BabieJahfi Ls Babieپیش ماه
  • Seriously the fact this even a discussion it is sad, deciding the MVP before the playoffs is stupid, the team that wins the playoffs should also have the MVP award simple.

  • This white guy seriously just said with a straight face that if you take LeBron out of the line up, the Lakers are maybe still a playoff team (in the western conference). He then goes, if you take Giannis out of the team, the Bucks have shown they are a formidable team (He speaks about one game against the Heat). This guy is a clown. You take Giannis out of the Bucks, we don't even talk about them.

    L.ML.Mپیش ماه
  • Acho out here telling us that the bubble games were not included in the final voting therefore makes a huge difference to the votes. Mate even if you include the 8 games, it didn't make any difference. Giannis still had better numbers. Also whenever LeBron had a top 2 record in the whole NBA, he wins the MVP. LeBron's teams did not finish atleast top 2 in those seasons where they dominated the East and therefore factored in greatly in a "REGULAR" season award.

    L.ML.Mپیش ماه

    The JokerThe Jokerپیش ماه
  • Giannis deserved MVP award this year...however James Harden was robbed of it last year.

    Sustainment TVSustainment TVپیش ماه
  • Voting is done as soon as the season is over therefore it's a regular season award. We didn't "deem" it that way. If the voting was done after the finals, then it would obviously include the playoffs as well. The reason the voting is done prior to the playoffs is because they don't want the votes to be influenced by the playoff outcomes. It's a regular season award and Giannis was the best player this season clear cut. He had the better individual stats, the best team record in the whole NBA whereas the Lakers were only 3rd and on top of that Giannis influenced both ends of the floor at a high level. And his "Robin" is Middleton and not AD. Clear MVP no question about it and it was reflected in the votes.

    L.ML.Mپیش ماه
  • Marcellus acting like Bron ain’t have the Lakers on the way to the playoffs last year before he got hurt

    The Real Talk ShowThe Real Talk Showپیش ماه
  • This show is unwatchable. I never thought I would say this: I miss Whitlock.

    Chosen TwoChosen Twoپیش ماه
  • Giannis was dominant offensively and defensively throughout the entire regular season. He is the undisputed MVP. MVP has been about the media stories for a while now. Westbrook averaged another triple double after his first MVP and he didn't even finish top 3 because the media story about KD leaving was over.

    Chosen TwoChosen Twoپیش ماه
  • Wiley is the BIGGEST blowhard on TV. He's worse than Skip Bayless!! lol

    Figure DrawingFigure Drawingپیش ماه
  • When ppl tried to say kd was better than bron they ignored him being with steph klay and dray now he has one good player not 3 and they hold it against him the goal post steady moving to diss bron🤣

    Quinton KubenkaQuinton Kubenkaپیش ماه
  • heard it all, IQ's dropping, common sense screaming, teacher called lazy 😉 . This student just don't wanna be schooled😉 no More.

    tosin dasilvertosin dasilverپیش ماه
  • what about level of competition? what about the extra something lebron seems to have, that giannis doesn't? When LeBron was snubbed before. It was oh he plays in the east. now this isnt even part of the conversation. utah portland pheonix denver san antonio houston CLIPPERS vs. boston and miami give me a break

    Darren BraemerDarren Braemerپیش ماه
  • Snubbed af giannis can’t even win in the east smh

    Quinton KubenkaQuinton Kubenkaپیش ماه
  • But if you only look at stats Westbrook on the thunder was the greatest PG of all time....if Gannis’s numbers actually meant what they looked like, he wouldn’t be a second round exit every year.

    Kyle SKyle Sپیش ماه
  • That's why there is also a FINALS MVP instead of a PLAYOFF MVP. Getting to the NBA championship is ultimately another level of value to place on a player. You can catch teams off guard or asleep in the regular season. You can't catch a team sleeping through an entire 7 game series.......unless you get "gentleman" swept 4-1.......

    Jason HughesJason Hughesپیش ماه
  • Y'all just love talkin about LeBron because Y'all didn't make any points

    J QuallsJ Quallsپیش ماه
  • why Bron not became MVP if stats bases...in 2018 Bron has very good stats than Harden why harden won MVP...kindly explain it to me

  • 1- The game the bucks won without Freak was the game He was the second leading scorer with 19 in 11 mins 2- Lebron won back to back and walked out the series twice by boston same fate as freak 3-Every year up the man with the better stats on the beter team won mvp except russell westbrook 4-AD has done more statistically on that team than lebron , 5 no he was not robbed

    DaTickizevilDaTickizevilپیش ماه
  • This dude looks like Terry Crews with hair!

    D@TruTH7D@TruTH7پیش ماه
  • Man who ever dude is he talk funny and he mess up on his words alot.. lol.. but he . smart and still getting money 💰 shout out to acho.. even tho he can't talk

    David BluittDavid Bluittپیش ماه
  • Guess this means Trump landslide!

    Steve PasquarellaSteve Pasquarellaپیش ماه
  • The NBA Establishment don't like Lebron because he has the most power. It's sad to see all the media voters have such a biased opinion for such a great champion. When he retires half of the NBA audience will disappear.

    Jake RamzyJake Ramzyپیش ماه
  • Lol value, but when lebron played in Cleveland with the least amount of talent they still said he was in the east

    Emmanuel MollieEmmanuel Mollieپیش ماه
  • What is going on in the bubble is a clear indication that this so called analyst had it so wrong On LBJ as much as anything they predict on.

    TMJ AppahTMJ Appahپیش ماه
  • If humanity didnt spend so many resources with silly things maybe covid wouldnt have us paralyzed.

    Gilbert AlvarezGilbert Alvarezپیش ماه
  • Yeah but you're not taking in the entire scenario LeBron put up the stats he did while having to share the spotlight with another MVP type Defensive Player of the Year player for him do I have to share that spotlight and points and rebounds ect and LeBron still put up these numbers that's crazy of course LeBron could put up Giannis stats this year if he was the only Superstar he could do that easily and more what are you sharing the team and spotlight and everything else with another great generational player and he is still putting up these types of numbers that are close to Giannis

    Goat StatureGoat Statureپیش ماه
  • the same media said KD and curry cant win anything in the league cuz they play 2gether or we gonna forget that?

    oj ojoj ojپیش ماه

    Ariel PascualAriel Pascualپیش ماه
  • Lebron’s team was not the best team in the NBA during the regular season. It was the Bucks. Regardless of what they did in the playoffs, Bucks was the better team on books during the regular season. Giannis is the best player on the best team

    az001maz001mپیش ماه
  • Until players and coaches get a vote on the MVP, the award means NOTHING. A bunch of couch surfers playing fantasy basketball, nothing more.

    Dmitry NutelsDmitry Nutelsپیش ماه
  • Giannis team had a better record than all the other 29 teams in the league. And his regular season stats were great. No one got snubbed. He was the better player stats and team record.

    az001maz001mپیش ماه
  • Neither should have won it. Real MVP is Chris Paul. He is the Thunder.

    Huang Chung ChuanHuang Chung Chuanپیش ماه
  • for me I would like the playoffs to count for the voting for MVP.. just to show who is really the MVP of the team.. I don't care if they lose the 2nd round or 1st round I just want to see how he is in the playoffs and compare to the regular season.. we know. experience teams in the regular season are just testing the water and experience players like lebron or kawhi take brakes or even get ready of the playoffs cause they know the playoffs is where the challenge is. teams have game plans and schemes to knock you down and for me if your the MVP you got to show your value in that moment.

    Kurt LlanosKurt Llanosپیش ماه
  • His Giannis argument is cap because if that was facts then harden should of gotten at least 2 MVPS this why LBJ got snubbed what validates a MVP now please NBA explain.

    Malik HarrisMalik Harrisپیش ماه
  • What LeBron did in the western conference is far more impressive than what Giannis did in the week East

    jason robbinsjason robbinsپیش ماه

    mubeen abdulmubeen abdulپیش ماه
  • How could be a snub if giannis is better statistically and improves his game than last year cruising his team to league best record?

    Jovel CambelJovel Cambelپیش ماه
  • MVP= most valuable, not best season stats wise; LBJ was the real MVP

    jfhayeurjfhayeurپیش ماه
    • That's horrible

      Leonza DuncanLeonza Duncanپیش ماه
  • My eyes ain’t even close to 2020 and I can see the goat !!

    How about Dem CowgirlsHow about Dem Cowgirlsپیش ماه
  • The MVP going to a Greek is obvious white systematic racism.

    TZJ747TZJ747پیش ماه
  • Acho is either playing a part or is dumb

    James TemlongJames Temlongپیش ماه
  • He got snubbed by 80 points hmmm

    Kev DehaarteKev Dehaarteپیش ماه
  • Giannis is foreign his goals are probably not the same as U.S. born superstars . He could join the warriors and win a chip to make Kevin durants move the norm and stop the hate to K.D .

    Richard OrozcoRichard Orozcoپیش ماه
  • So what Jordan got snub 3 time beaten by magic twice and Barkley, and everyone knew Jordan was suppose to win

    Deyonta' AmarachiDeyonta' Amarachiپیش ماه
  • Acho a clown, the Lakers record going into Xmas last year was 19-14, when Bron got hurt, in 4th but two games out of 10th place... Add Anthony Davis, who led LeBron in points, rebounds, steals, blocks, FG%, FT%, player efficiency, offensive and defensive win shares, offensive and defensive rating, etc. and the Lakers started the season 24-3 and were 33-7 halfway through the season. Anthony Davis is responsible for this jump, NOT LeBron. 🙄😒🤡

    Unknown NameUnknown Nameپیش ماه
  • Ion get his argument . Lebron went down and they didn’t make the plays offs last season . AD come this year and make the playoffs. How do u even ... idk whatever nvm

    Laylow ManmanLaylow Manmanپیش ماه
  • As much as I love LBJ, Giannis deserved this one...

    Julio De la CruzJulio De la Cruzپیش ماه
  • how is he snubbed if his teammate was also considered for mvp? come on man.

    Lawrence AmuraoLawrence Amuraoپیش ماه
  • Bron can't average that many boards and Giannis can't average that many assists.

    WestcoaststylingWestcoaststylingپیش ماه
  • This show is soooooo much better without Jason Whitlock.

    Fred WFred Wپیش ماه
  • MVP is regular season award. Give it when regular season ends. The Finals MVP is for the Playoffs(which you can & should only get when you win everything). Most importantly the MVP award needs to be divided into MVP and an award for who had the best season offensively. So MVP-Lebron, Best Statistical Offensive season-Giannis. Everyone's happy. (which they won't be but a guy can hope) Personal opinion. Don't @ please 🙏

    83 Saksham Gulati83 Saksham Gulatiپیش ماه
  • Where is whit?

    N` chanN` chanپیش ماه
  • How is AD the lakers mvp? Besides the stats. Do the lakers go to the playoffs without lebron? Is the wins/losses the same? Do they run plays efficiently? No. Watch the games smh..

    bollocksnliliesbollocksnliliesپیش ماه
  • Acho and Rick keep using the playoffs to determine the regular season MVP. And lying about the comparative value of the candidates. By their logic Kobe should have been the MVP in 2009, and 2010 because LeBron couldn’t lead his team to the finals.

    Orville WrightOrville Wrightپیش ماه
  • Its sooo many reasons y the nuggets will lose this series convincingly & the refs are not 1of em...Best player has to be able to do something on defense

    John CooperJohn Cooperپیش ماه
  • Sorry Acho just take the lose

    Michael WatersMichael Watersپیش ماه
  • Lebron is putting up 10pts & 15 pts and winning AD is carrying him & Lead the lakers in most categories

    PeezyDaBeatMonsterPeezyDaBeatMonsterپیش ماه
    • @River0fCustard sure bronsexual

      PeezyDaBeatMonsterPeezyDaBeatMonsterپیش ماه
    • You're like Skip Bayless, you just check the stats without watching the game. When LeBron gets 10 or 15 points, it's because the Lakers are cooking and don't really need his scoring.

      River0fCustardRiver0fCustardپیش ماه
  • The problem is that they give the award in the playoffs. They need to go back to the old format when they use to give it on the first game of the playoffs or the last game of the season.

    TheCosmo1672TheCosmo1672پیش ماه
  • This show is trash

    Travis GreenTravis Greenپیش ماه
  • Giannis was instrumental to the game that his team won in overtime by 3 points. He had 19 points in 11 minutes of playing before injury. The game he did not play in his team lost and were eliminated from the playoffs.

    Orville WrightOrville Wrightپیش ماه
  • The bubble season games actually account for only 35% of the remaining games in the season when the league suspended the season and there was no guarantee of LeBron having a better rest of the season than Giannis.

    Orville WrightOrville Wrightپیش ماه
  • Acho is so dumb. Lebron won all of his MVP’s playing in the East.

    define crazydefine crazyپیش ماه
  • 2010 is the same playoff results with LeBron the season MVP losing in the second round of the playoffs. He was not criticized for being in the east when his team had the best record in regular season and he was the MVP. He was criticized for playing in the east because of his finals record indicating that his loaded team cruising through the conference playoffs and losing in the finals. The bubble started over 3 months after the season was suspended and a month after the finals would normally have ended.

    Orville WrightOrville Wrightپیش ماه
  • They screaming numbers don't matter and trying to incorporate bubble play into the MVP. Well if that's the case then Jimmy Butler should be the MVP. They trashed him for going to the heat and now look at the heat. A completely different team. They said curry and durant isolated each other from the MVP conversation because they were top 10 players. Why doesn't this apply to Lebron and AD? Lebron isn't even the best player on his team if we're including defense and offense.

    allaboutfactsallaboutfactsپیش ماه
  • The reason the bubble games didn’t count is because you have to be fair for awards even for the teams not invited the same goes for the playoffs.

    Chase HaymanChase Haymanپیش ماه
  • It's a regular season award and Giannis had the best regular season (he DID NOT deserve DPOY though, that should have went to AD) Not to mention Lebron and AD kind of cancel each other out. That being said, both Lebron and AD are better players than Giannis. That was made painfully obvious during the playoffs.

    Xavier VegaXavier Vegaپیش ماه
  • These guys are hilarious! Even if you don't agree with them

    ΠΛNOΣΠΛNOΣپیش ماه
  • I LOVE EVERYBODY! BUT! White people, please, i beg you, STOP with the “youre so well spoken” stuff with black people! You may mean well, but this nation has conditioned you to think that way!!! STOP SAYING IT!! It’s demeaning and insulting! I never ever hear a white man compliment another white man, saying he’s “so well spoken and articulate”. PLEASE STOP THIS! All love, but it’s insulting and hurtful! Stop.

    Trunx KraftTrunx Kraftپیش ماه
  • This is such a biased show

    Nihar TurlapatiNihar Turlapatiپیش ماه