LeBron winning his 4th title keeps him in GOAT debate with MJ - Broussard | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

2020 12 اكتبر
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Chris Broussard joins Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho to discuss LeBron James winning his 4th NBA title. Broussard explains what this title means for LeBron's legacy and the GOAT debate.
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  • What are your thoughts on LeBron's legacy?

    Speak For YourselfSpeak For Yourselfپیش 17 روز
    • His legacy is simple. Longevity.

      musicluv80musicluv80پیش 16 روز
    • Why not just say lebron the lion

      TjizzleTjizzleپیش 16 روز
    • LeBronas legacy puts him 2 and MJ is the 1 The GOAT

    • It is crazy how Lebron wins 4th ring when he is 35 and people call him the GOAT when Jordan won his 6th ring when he was 35.

      musicluv80musicluv80پیش 17 روز
    • GOAT discussion sailed away for Lebron. It is about if he can catch up with Kareem.

      musicluv80musicluv80پیش 17 روز
  • Wiley is stupid......Jordan is The G.O.A.T & it's not even close.

    K DOGGK DOGGپیش 12 روز
  • Its also sad that these lebron stans act like a 3 peat means nothing.

    The_9th_HokageThe_9th_Hokageپیش 13 روز
  • Imagine if Lebron was faithful, never gave up and worked hard for 9 years to finally win a Championship for the Cavs then won a 3 peat. Mom gets murdered, goes to an entirely different SPORT, comes back and wins ANOTHER 3 peat. All 6 Finals MVP. One team, one jersey. Never allowed a game 7. No losses. Never froze. 10 scoring titles. 9 time defensives. Hit the highest peak in the history of the game. Vast majority of the world acknowledges him as the GOAT. Then a new kid comes along, loses 6 finals. Hops around team to team to barely win 4. Has played longer than the other guy so he stacks stats, but since he's relevant now, people mention him in the GOAT conversation. Yea... exactly. MJ is GOAT.

    Jun KimJun Kimپیش 14 روز
  • It's been proven now 3 different times that if you want to Win the NBA Championship, just sign LeBron James & by your 2nd Season you will be fitted for a💍ring & scheduling a parade...

    James D. BlanchardJames D. Blanchardپیش 15 روز
  • bron not done

    Dane HartDane Hartپیش 15 روز
  • The King >Mj

    Quin DecimQuin Decimپیش 15 روز
  • Lebron before dwade?????

    Rashad MooreRashad Mooreپیش 15 روز
  • 🤣😂😂🤣👍 Their face when Chris Broussard hit them with straight FACTS “MICHAEL Jordan is the only player in NBA history to have no weaknesses in his game”!!!! 💯 Y’all Lebron fans will never brainwash people who know basketball into thinking he’s the GOAT! JORDAN = Greatest Player Ever

    Justin OdleJustin Odleپیش 15 روز
  • How is marcellus went from a Bron hater to a Bron fan this quickly?

    El Mehdi NafiaEl Mehdi Nafiaپیش 16 روز
  • Lebron isn’t a shooter he’s just bigger than everyone so he throws his shoulder and drives to the basket layups shouldn’t count as shooting 50% from the field it exaggerates how the player is really scoring

    Uptowngunna From da bUptowngunna From da bپیش 16 روز
  • Marcellus you're a grown man and won't even tell the truth. so basically they pay you to lie or is that the way you feel cuz if so that's a shame.

    Tracey JoynerTracey Joynerپیش 16 روز
  • If you seen Kobe play and you seen Michael Jordan play and you sing LeBron play. Ask yourself this which one would you take on your team.don't ask the question unless you're going to be honest.

    Tracey JoynerTracey Joynerپیش 16 روز
  • I think these guys should stick to Football cause they don't know shii about basketball..

    Andrew BaileyAndrew Baileyپیش 16 روز
  • This is how you have a debate without sounding hateful, disrespectful or foolishly biased

    Guti KongaGuti Kongaپیش 16 روز
  • Jordan is goat the end !!

    Samoan WarriorSamoan Warriorپیش 16 روز
  • And Jordan made pippen an all time great, kerr and paxson well known clutch shooters. Phil Jackson best coach ever

    Lukasz DudaLukasz Dudaپیش 16 روز
  • What is the narrative that lebron is a better defender than Jordan? When Wiley said Jordan’s just an iso scorer?

    Lukasz DudaLukasz Dudaپیش 16 روز
  • Michael had 2 3peats...Kobe/Shaq had the other 3peat. Who owns all the 3peats in the modern era..? It is Phil Jackson. He is the Common Denominator. Kobe nor Jordan won without Phil Jackson. And don't tell me that Jordan made Phil, because he never won without him. And does a Player besides Lebron ever make a coach Great? to the point of getting 3 3peats and 11 rings???

    Oh SayWhatOh SayWhatپیش 16 روز
  • MJ is GOAT

    Jun KimJun Kimپیش 16 روز
  • Y’all only talk about “MJ had Pippen” LeBron needed Wade Bosh AD Ray Allen Kyrie K-Love Bron, Dwayne Wade, and Bosh was all the in the same 2003 Draft Class bruh. Bron drafted #1, Bosh #4, Wade #5. They all play on the same roster in the PRIME. No team has ever had that advantage dude. Really think about that. Let’s put Hakeem Olajuwon, MJ, and Charles Barkley on one team in their primes and see the results. That’s 1984 draft class top 5. That’s exactly what LeBron did to get his first 2 ring and then you want me to call him the GOAT!?!??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you must be out your mind

    eaglesfan1999eaglesfan1999پیش 16 روز
    • @wlbw1 Yea....Like I said, with put Lebron on the team Jordan won a championship with...Jordan couldnt even get out of the 1st round before he got pippen.

      Oh SayWhatOh SayWhatپیش 14 روز
    • And they still lost to the Mavericks 🤦‍♂️

      wlbw1wlbw1پیش 14 روز
    • Put Lebron on that Bulls team...in fact, put Prime KD, Wade, Kobe, Kawhi, T-Mac, etc. on that bulls team, Same result as Jordan. The bulls team is going down as one of the best TEAM of all time with the golden state warriors. So how can you argue that Jordan is the GOAT? What if Lebron had that cast WITH Phil Jackson?

      Oh SayWhatOh SayWhatپیش 16 روز
  • Leclown is the goat of losing more finals than he's won! Stop trying to elevate this clown past mj!

    william virellawilliam virellaپیش 16 روز
  • If LeBron is soo much better then MJ, then why does MJ still has more Finals wins Finals MVP’s DPOY’s 1st team All Defense Scoring Titles More steals Less turnovers Beaten more 60 plus win teams in the postseason More 3 peats (2x) then LeBron. This is just to name a few. Mind you MJ did this in less time with a 1 year break to play baseball. The only reason he went to a 2nd retirement because Krause broke up the team. MJ 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 convo over.

    eaglesfan1999eaglesfan1999پیش 16 روز
  • So wait a min.... just because lebron decides to go and team up with other stars instead of building with one team and winning he now individually gets credit for making others greater but....MJ gets the "he didn't win until pippen" BS? How come MJ didn't make scottie great? How come Wade didn't make Lebron great? I swear this narrative gets more and more disturbing lmao. Lebron gets individual praise for making it to the finals and winning but then they cry TEAM game when he loses or MJ gets brought up for more rings lol can't have it both ways, he either gets credit for leading a great TEAM or he gets roasted for his INDIVIDUAL finals record. Which one y'all?

    cenvalleybasketballcenvalleybasketballپیش 16 روز
  • LBJ has 17 yrs in the NBA and has 4 rings n 4 MVP's to show for it.. that's pretty good but NOT GOAT STATUS..js

    ATG3ROCKS 72ATG3ROCKS 72پیش 16 روز
  • Michael Jordan never went to another team to win championships he stayed with Chicago bulls

    King EarnestKing Earnestپیش 17 روز
  • Acho exposing Kylie oops Kyrie for the fraud that he is, sneak dissing LBJ wit all those L’s he was taking before and now after LBJ!😂😂

    CAL-G Pure Vessel E.M.CAL-G Pure Vessel E.M.پیش 17 روز
  • MJ is a better scorer/shooter and defender. What is that 1 rebound and 1 assist really worth?

    Jason SpadesJason Spadesپیش 17 روز
  • why they put wade up there like he aint win before lebron

  • Lebron is a 40% mid range shooter since his first mvp. Thats around Kobe and Melo average and more than D-Wade’s

    Szilárd OberritterSzilárd Oberritterپیش 17 روز
    • @Eric Jordan you are wrong 🤷🏽‍♂️ Kawhi and Jordan too shot it around 44-45% while Lebron shot around 42-ish. Lebron is a good mid range shooter, obviously not a mid range assassin but very far from bad and well ober average which means pretty good. My point which I responded to is that Lebron has 0 weaknesses, Jordan couldnt guard 6’8 or bigger guys in the post, 28% career 3 point shooter from the real triple ,really inconsistent and not versatile from there,only catch and shoots. You can point to Lebron’s FT shooting as a weakness like all of his naysayers but you will fail. Lebron shoots better % from the FT line as the league average and had the same % on clutch free throws in the Playoffs as MJ and better in the Finals. Lebron is the most flawless player ever that can dominate in any way imaginable. Jordan was a better mid range shooter and 1 on 1 scorer than Lebron and arguably better but more like equal when defending gaurds. Lebron can defend bigs in the post,guards on the perimeter,outrebound bigman, assist like Magic,outsmart you like Phil Jackson, score as a Top 4 scorer ever,make the clutch shots more times with better efficiency than anybody ever, shoot form Curry range (28 ft+) with better % than Curry for 5 years. Lebron will outsmart your,outrun you,overpower you. He does everything better than MJ except 1 on 1 scoring 🤷🏽‍♂️

      Szilárd OberritterSzilárd Oberritterپیش 17 روز
    • And that is not good for a supposed greatest ever candidate. It wasn't good for Kobe either. What's your point?

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • all this rings determining goat status... Robert Horry: am I a joke to you? without me, Houston would not have won.. without me, Lakers would not have 3-peat.. without me, San Antonio would not have won.. where were they before I arrived? less rings than when I arrived that's where...

    NaelNaelپیش 17 روز
    • It is a part of it. Lebron stans state it means nothing until it suits them. It is a complete culmination of rings plus other tangibles. You have to nitpick when talking about GOAT status.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • No one cares about this year's title - this year's bubble games were pathetic.

    Andres LopezAndres Lopezپیش 17 روز
    • How were they pathetic? You clearly didn't pay attention.

      StakkStakkپیش 17 روز
    • Yes they were.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • Asterisk this was weakest title ever

    Cortez WatsonCortez Watsonپیش 17 روز
  • The guy has been stacking his teams for the past 10 years. Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, and now AD.

    theoakman1980theoakman1980پیش 17 روز
    • How is the the lakers a stack team with lebron and a.d only..a.d never been past a second round smh...

      RodC1987RodC1987پیش 16 روز
    • that why it was so easy in the east he had 2 all stars on his team

    • Thank you! That gets overlooked with this age of sensationalism. Always about the next best thing no matter how flawed their game is.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • Tough to argue against his 6 NBA finals losses. Is he the best player in this generation? Absolutely! Is he a top 3 player of all time, absolutely! As a Knicks fan I lived the MJ era through and through and MJ was just different. Teams were a lot more focused on Defense and were a lot more physical. The officiating was obviously less riguorous and what today would be a 10 game suspension, during the late 80's or 90's it was simply a flagrant foul. And so, watching MJ develop and expand his game going up against the Pistons, Pacers, Knicks, Blazers, The Jazz, the Cavs, the Suns, the Supersonics, was remarkable. Every team in the league was designed to stop him and they were never succesful, not once! And that's the biggest difference between the 2. Lebron lost 6 finals.....6........and if you go back to the film, you'll see his lack of situational awareness, his(lack of) clutch play in various situations and even being outplayed by other superstars, see 2011 and 2014. Not only that, he is 1-3(in finals) against one of the most lethal basketball teams the NBA has ever seen, the Warriors. So, to me, those 4 series against the Warriors were his chance to really gain the respect he is looking for. Now, did he elevate his Game in 2016? Absolutely! That was the only time he went into another zone, another frequency, that was the only time Lebron could have a cigar with MJ in the same table, thing is, MJ did it 6 times and never lost, in battle, if you get shot...you lose....The GOAT never got shot!!

    Federico CalviñoFederico Calviñoپیش 17 روز
  • Jordan has no weaknesses? Broussard might have pronounced "LeBron" wrong because last time I checked, Jordan didn't have a three-point shot. LeBron, on the other hand, if not by consensus the GOAT, is unanimously known as the best all-around player ever.

    Prof TVProf TVپیش 17 روز
    • Lebron can’t shoot free throws, and is bad at defense

      Tammar AlsadkhanTammar Alsadkhanپیش 16 روز
    • That is not a weakness. It becomes a weakness, and a detriment, when you overuse that novelty shot. If it was a weakness, Jordan would have never won anything at all. Lebron has a few weaknesses and the rules changes have helped Lebron, and others, along tremendously. Try again.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • Wondering... If it was 4-0, record for Lebron, does it sound better?

    Charles MedallaCharles Medallaپیش 17 روز
  • Jest West Lost So Many finals

    Billy GrantBilly Grantپیش 17 روز
  • Steve Kerr probably wouldn't have his job and John Paxton wouldn't had his job and to be honest who was Phil Jackson before joining Chicago come on now and Stacey King a analyst for the bulls organization come on... not taking anything from LBJ

    James DonaldJames Donaldپیش 17 روز
  • When LBJ wins his 5th ring, he may surpass Kobe.

    edgar arcosedgar arcosپیش 17 روز
    • @Tammar Alsadkhan thats not disrespect its fact 🤷🏾‍♂️ im sorry your emotions for Kobe are clouding your thinking ability

      StakkStakkپیش 16 روز
    • @Stakk disrespectful, I have lebron ahead but that’s why people hate bronsexuals, no respect for the game

      Tammar AlsadkhanTammar Alsadkhanپیش 16 روز
    • Lmaaao. RIP Kobe but he's not even close to LeBron

      StakkStakkپیش 17 روز
  • Tim duncan is 5-1 in the finals

    Dwayne SpencerDwayne Spencerپیش 17 روز
  • Sad argument Acho!

    Juraj ChovanecJuraj Chovanecپیش 17 روز
  • The chemistry on this show after Whitlock left has been phenomenal. Acho is a great co-host.

    LJ the RE7 GameCatLJ the RE7 GameCatپیش 17 روز
  • "people keep on asking whose the greatest of all time that's a stupid question the real question should be who is the greatest team of all time" - Michael Jordan

    LeeTravius MckayLeeTravius Mckayپیش 17 روز
    • Greatest team during a season or greatest team franchise?

      Geronimo PrattGeronimo Prattپیش 16 روز
  • King James is the goat

    anant gandhianant gandhiپیش 17 روز
  • What "typical" 4-6 are you talking about

    Kristopher TamarraKristopher Tamarraپیش 17 روز
  • Chris is wrong. LeBron "King" James solidified himself as the GOAT now for so many reasons.

    UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
    • State them so we all can converse.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • James is on peds..

    John SmithJohn Smithپیش 17 روز
  • MJ was not a good 3 point shooter

    Samuel BowenSamuel Bowenپیش 17 روز
  • MJ cant guard post up Magic or Penny or any big man and he cant create for other and he never be a treat from out side. All his career he never won against any super team.

    kyo zakyo zaپیش 17 روز
    • Ummmm you lost all credibility with that garbage you just spewed!

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • No weakness? 3 point shooting

    ExodusExodusپیش 17 روز
    • Again, that is not a weakness. If it is overused, that is a weakness because it becomes a detriment to the team. That is what a weakness entails, a part of the game that is NEEDED and a player doesn't fare well in that scenario. We are talking about passing, free throws, rebounding, high-percentage shots, defense, etc.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز

    Virgilio AntonioVirgilio Antonioپیش 17 روز

    Virgilio AntonioVirgilio Antonioپیش 17 روز
    • It is better to be a leader who helps their teammates develop into good players/superb role players.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • So defense doesn’t matter anymore?

    James ColeJames Coleپیش 17 روز
  • So, is Montana the GOAT over Brady? I mean...Montana never lost a Superbowl...but Brady has lost several.

    Pend3rlabPend3rlabپیش 17 روز
  • Yo if AD went to the bulls and lebron folllowed and Chicago won ..Jordan fans would lose they’re minds 😂 Jordan did have a weakness he was a he didn’t shoot the 3 good on a daily basis

    Savageass KhrisSavageass Khrisپیش 17 روز
    • Shooting the 3 good is not a weakness, it is a choice. A weakness entails a part of the game that is NEEDED and a player doesn't fare well at it, to the detrimentof the team. You don't need the 3 to win games or get points. It becomes a weakness when players don't stop using it, which then it becomes a detriment to the team.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • The media makes you hate LeBron. It is maddening how they obsess over this man. He is one of the best but there is no best. No no one player is the best ever.

    AC_TC_20AC_TC_20پیش 17 روز
  • So 8 straight NBA finals is not dominant? 🤔

    Trevonn CrooksTrevonn Crooksپیش 17 روز
    • I'll take 2 3-peats over 8 straight finals (4-10) any day. And the Heat had that great lineup assembled and they only managed to win 2 is questionable because they promised not 1, not 2, not 3, but 5, right?

      Randell LlarenaRandell Llarenaپیش 17 روز
    • Like the Bills 4 straight SB's... ???

      Wayne SWayne Sپیش 17 روز
    • Exactly!!!

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
  • LeBron will eventualy surpass MJ in stats. But that is logical given the fact that he is still playing for far more seasons than MJ. Does this make him the GOAT then? In that case longevity is the criteria. We should analyse percentage wise. Then we see how much MJ is above LeBron who actualy only effectively played 12 seasons (almost 1 season his ankle was broken). GOAT actualy characterizes Dominance which nobody showed better than MJ. It wasn't only winning but the way he did it. You have to see his full games and not his highlights only to know what i mean. Comming 4th quarter it was like an assurance that MJ would win it. Nobody panicked, just give the ball to MJ and play your part. Thats it. But when you watch LeBron play, do you feel assured that his team will win comming 4th quater? Or do you bite all your nails and hope for the best..that was by far the biggest gap in level and mentality. With MJ you know you'll win, with LeBron you never know. If that isn't the biggest reason for GOAT conversation then i don't know what is..

    Soeradj NarainSoeradj Narainپیش 17 روز
    • Stats don't mean anything when you factor in the fact that they actually played defense back when MJ was playing. If MJ was playing these soft defenses of today, he would average 40+ for his career and 50+ in his best seasons. If Lebronda was playing back then, he would just be an average 20-8 guy. He would basically be Kevin McHale at his best

      Wayne SWayne Sپیش 17 روز
    • You sure you wanna bring up averages?

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
  • I love how people forget lebron almost beat the warriors in 2015 with matthew dellavadova as his next best player. They also forget that Kevin Durant stole two rings from Lebron. If Kyrie stays healthy in 2015 and Durant stays in Okc, lebron has 6 rings as of today.

    D.C.JD.C.Jپیش 17 روز
    • One could argue jordan would have 8 if he didnt retire twice so ... Lebron is the goat but couldnt win those big games. The only thing that matters is winning the chip.

      The_9th_HokageThe_9th_Hokageپیش 14 روز
    • @SD Fishin nope. Lebron did not join a super team. What was the heat record when lebron joined lol

      D.C.JD.C.Jپیش 15 روز
    • if ray allen misses the shot, after lebron failed twice if the league doesnt suspend draymond in 2016 if tim duncan makes the easy putback in game 7 ... lebron could easily be 2-8 in the finals

      ongo longoongo longoپیش 16 روز
    • @Tammar Alsadkhan Lebron was robbed in daylight by a thief named Kevin Durant

      D.C.JD.C.Jپیش 16 روز
    • If if if, that’s why lebron isn’t the goat. If the queen had balls she would be king

      Tammar AlsadkhanTammar Alsadkhanپیش 16 روز
  • He needs to get that 3PEAT then he will be considered the GOAT. I SEE A 3PEAT COMING

    Kris PerkinsKris Perkinsپیش 17 روز
  • Cb got served....

    Thorn flexThorn flexپیش 17 روز
  • Stupid comparisons realy..we could reverse this and say: LeBron before Wade and after.. the thing is that with LeBron he constantly switched to better players whereas Irvin or Wade did not.. LeBron constantly switched teams and bundled with players who might have been a treat to him in order to get rings. Something unheard of by proud and dominant players in early days. We talk about how LeBron shined against the Heat and winning finals MVP?? Realy? A team that actualy had no bussiness going this far. Against better oposition AD was far better in prvious rounds but now it as if LeBron lead the Lakers to Glory. A team effort if you ask me in general

    Soeradj NarainSoeradj Narainپیش 17 روز
    • @Wayne S He chose the Contract. He could've opted out.

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 16 روز
    • ​@UnexpectedWonder He can't just switch teams while he is under contract, you dufuss.

      Wayne SWayne Sپیش 17 روز
    • 2018 & 2019 invalidate your claim.

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
  • NBA Exec forgot that basketball like most sports has a defensive side of the game too. MJ and Kobe both are 9x NBA All Defensive Team.

    Michael LeeMichael Leeپیش 17 روز
  • Losing 6 finals and winning 4 championships in a weak NBA league makes you the GOAT? lol You people are irrational. Kobe still has one more ring than him, and did not lose that many finals from the tough west.

    Habibur IHaveSeenItAllHabibur IHaveSeenItAllپیش 17 روز
  • What happened to Kawhi with PG?

    Yong YiYong Yiپیش 17 روز
  • Acho be preaching yo!!!

    Brock's Black ExcellenceBrock's Black Excellenceپیش 17 روز
  • A finals and finals mvp can only elevate your resume. Ion get the debate 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

    deathstrokedeathstrokeپیش 17 روز
  • KAWHi is NOT a top 25 all time nba player @ this point

    Bobby TsunamiBobby Tsunamiپیش 17 روز
  • Lebron is the Goat. His individual accomplishments kills MJ.

    Atiba GaskinAtiba Gaskinپیش 17 روز
    • If that individual accomplishments produced championship rings, I would agree.

      Angelo GalanoAngelo Galanoپیش 8 روز
    • Is that by design? Let's engage beyond the numbers because they give a false sense of what has taken/is taking place.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • Marcellus Wiley is freaking hilarious.... top five debater ESPN or Fox or NBC

    Jermaine BaileyJermaine Baileyپیش 17 روز
  • If we are going to compare across eras don't we need to acknowledge that MJ would have quit after a few years since he couldn't even handle the 90s media with his affair, gambling etc. He wouldn't have survived in this day and age of constant investigations and nit-picking.

    Joseph BianconiJoseph Bianconiپیش 17 روز
    • True story...

      MrOgstylerMrOgstylerپیش 17 روز
  • Wiley... You could literally flip Pippen's screen without Jordan, to Jordan without Pippen.

    crush1221crush1221پیش 17 روز
  • Hey Chris 3peat is dominant well what about bill Russell and the Celtics who won 8 straight now that is dominant this Jordan narrative keeps getting weak and weak by the day first he was the greatest scorer then he was mister clutch then it was 6 championship now it’s 2 3peats Jordan fan keep moving the post in another 5 year or less Jordan won’t been in top ten scoring and Jordan couldn’t get out of the first round for 9 year and through his career Isaiah Thomas owned him just look at the head between Detroit and bulls back then is Jordan the greatest iso player ever yes but not the greatest leader when it come to championship that’s bill Russell will 11 in 13years and Jordan not the best all round player cause he could only play one position that honour goes to magic which LeBron May have over taken lol 😂

    George ButtGeorge Buttپیش 17 روز
    • @Eric Jordan Jordan could only play one position unlike Russell who could play center and powerforward in Russell 13 years he went to 12 championship winning 11 including 8 straight Jordan only got to final 6 times on his 15 year career I don’t know where u watch sports but a 13 year career with 12 championship appearances and 11 championships is far more dominant that a 15 year career 6 championship appearances and 6 championship but jut 2 3peats that’s the problem Jordan fan they keep change what is dominant so they can keep a dead beat dad who turn his back on his race and let social injustice had to he can be called the goat

      George ButtGeorge Buttپیش 16 روز
    • Russell, as well as James, has/had weaknesses and their resume has holes that can't be patched up. That is where you begin when dealing with greatest ever discussions. Numbers can be swayed and don't tell the reasoning behind them.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • LeBrons playoff meltdowns CAN NEVER BE IGNORED - no matter how many good, great, best ever playoff performances are compiled by LeBron, these are rendered null & void, why? Cause MJ NEVER choked - and this ABOVE ALL ELSE separates MJ as the GOAT and LeBron THE GREAT PRETENFDER

    False EmailFalse Emailپیش 17 روز
    • This is Fake News.

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
    • Jordan got schooled for 9 seasons, nearly 2/3rd of his career is Ls

      Awesome PowerAwesome Powerپیش 17 روز
  • Chris Broussard just got shook with the "arbitrary category" rebuttal 😂

    Steve's ContentSteve's Contentپیش 17 روز

    Isaiah StubbsIsaiah Stubbsپیش 17 روز
    • So using your logic, Giannis had a bettrr playoffs run than Jimmy Butler coz Butler lost in the finals and Giannis lost in the 2nd round. LOL

      AvaAvaپیش 17 روز
  • U left Kobe out Marcellus

    George ButtGeorge Buttپیش 17 روز

    G GmaneG Gmaneپیش 17 روز
  • I am the elevator - lebron

    John CapoJohn Capoپیش 17 روز
  • Lebron is never the best player ever , ESPN started this narrative and now it's all over , but one thing I will say is that I will take 6-0 rings all day and 3 peat twice is more harder than 4-10

    Stanley OdoemenemStanley Odoemenemپیش 17 روز
    • And MJ did that against who??? Bad Boy Pistons and Birds Celtics isnt even better than GSW or Big 4 Spurs and yet MJ got bounced. Lol trash era. MJ bulls even made it to the playoffs with just 30wins twice woooww tough era hahahahaha

      AvaAvaپیش 17 روز
  • Lebron is a better scorer because he is more efficient and took less shots if lebron averaged 25 shots per game I'm sure he could of averaged Jordan numbers but I love Jordan but I'll take lebron first anyday

    truth hurtstruth hurtsپیش 17 روز
    • @Eric Jordan u bringing up Steve nash lebron finished top 5 in MVP voting 14 times which Jordan never did top 3 8 years in a row Jordan has not dominated the league like lebron has and he is going to win 2 more I will take longevity instead of a year run lebron will have a 17 year run of pure dominance more years than Jordan played 😂😂😂

      truth hurtstruth hurtsپیش 4 روز
    • @Eric Jordan i didn't mean to insult you but like I said my facts are unacceptable to you it's sad that ur only argument is rule changes😂😂😂😂

      truth hurtstruth hurtsپیش 4 روز
    • And so typical of your type resorting to insults. Tell mommy to change your diaper and wipe the similac from your wittle mouth with that bib!

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 5 روز
    • @truth hurts .... LOL you are really reaching. I was born with this name so try again youngster. I'm 49 years old and I watched the games when they were played. Don't need IRworld and highlight reels. You won't find many games in their entirety on IRworld so you fail. And if you do, you kids are so conditioned at looking for what you are used to seeing that if it doesn't fit your liking, you dismiss it as slow, weak, watered-down, etc. Most of you haven't the mindset to dissect the game and understand the nuances you've missed. Come back and converse when you get some real knowledge under your belt. Bruce Blitz's channel is a good start for you kid.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 5 روز
    • And you just proved another fallacy people bring up to tryn push Lebron ahead of Jordan. No one who is labeled a pass-first, non-scorer averages 20 attempts per game for their career. Also, he is efficient because THE RULES CHANGES HAVE ALLOWED HIM TO TAKE 69% OF HIS SHOTS FROM 10 FEET AND IN. He is also allowed to get away with lowering the shoulder and extending the forearm on drives with the calls going against the defense when they are clearly offensive fouls.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 5 روز
  • Gross

    loustreamloustreamپیش 17 روز
  • Image a team in any sports playing in 9 finals in 10 years wining 4 championships now that is GREATNESS GOAT JAMES 1st finals lossing to Dallas a team that sweep the back to back champion KOBE lakers 2nd finals beating kd,Russel and harden now three league MVP 3rd finals beating timmy, parker mano 3 hall of Gamers 4th finals lossing Spurs 3all of famers 5th finals lossing to the warriors after lossing love and erwin his team 2nd and 3rd best players 6th finals beating a 73-9 team coming back for been down 3-1 something that was never done before 7th finals kd join a 73-9 team basically ganging up on the King 8th finals erwin left the cavs going now where fast some how they made the finals I don't know how lol 9th finals the warriors super team is broken up and the King wins again NOW if he is not the GOAT no one is GOAT JAMES

    Cordell NashCordell Nashپیش 17 روز
    • @Gipsy Flipsy dont cry, he's still the second greatest. If anybody is the second greatest at something, then I won't hate. Rn I'm not hating, just speaking the undisputed fact

      Tammar AlsadkhanTammar Alsadkhanپیش 16 روز
    • @Tammar Alsadkhan No, he's not. Move on.

      Gipsy FlipsyGipsy Flipsyپیش 16 روز
    • @Gipsy Flipsy Mj is the goat, stop crying and move on

      Tammar AlsadkhanTammar Alsadkhanپیش 16 روز
    • On the other hand who did Jordan beat? Drexler, Porter, Robinson Payton, Kemp, Schrempf Old Lakers Not exactly all time juggernauts Barkley, Chambers, KJ and Stockton, Malone were legit competition but MJ was always the favorite. MJ didn't face the Pistons in the Finals but he lost to them twice in the ECF. Losing to them is more understandable. But if we go down that road then his 6-0 record goes out the window too. Lebron lost to the Mavericks which he shouldn't have, but he shouldn't have won against GSW 2016 and Spurs 2013 and did it anyway. Lebron was the underdog more often than he was the favorite.

      Gipsy FlipsyGipsy Flipsyپیش 17 روز
  • Acho that's jus 1 example. You asked him anyways lol. And marcellus the east was even tougher back in the day the modern eastern conference jus got competitive 2 years ago fr. Remember when the hawks had the 1 seed but it never felt threatening?? Lol better know yall NBA history this ain't the NFL

    Reginald HarrisonReginald Harrisonپیش 17 روز
  • Stupid guys MJ is best player,but lebron is greatest player in the universe.If aliens comes on the earth they played basketball then don't worry we have lebron james.not only 35 age,45,55 age he could play basketball like alien.

    Bhanu PratapBhanu Pratapپیش 17 روز
  • Why is every basketball discuss always about The GOAT? I immediately tune out anytime I hear the talking heads unceasingly making this a topic of discourse. It shows laziness and not been original in thoughts and ideas.

    omokhowaomokhowaپیش 17 روز
  • Bill Russell had how many?

    Eddie WalkerEddie Walkerپیش 17 روز
  • but why are you yelling lol

    Afa LaufoliAfa Laufoliپیش 17 روز
  • L.J. isn't better than Kobe. So how he gonna challenge "Kareem Abdul Jabbar's" Title?

    Eddie WalkerEddie Walkerپیش 17 روز
  • Lebrons whole bread n butter when it wasn't a dunk or lay up was the mid-range pull up. It's not until the last 10 years that he's moved behind 3 pt line. Jordans weakness is he can't guard all 5 positions, his mentality (just as much of a strength) and his inefficiency as a scorer to name a few. Every play has weaknesses

    olliej21olliej21پیش 17 روز
    • @Eric Jordan Is a 6'6" player supposed to guard a 4 or a 5? Can Lebron hold off Shaq? Heck can he even hold of Embiid? Eric above mentioned he wasn't even able to hold of Howard during his heydays in Orlando so your argument that Lebron can guard all 5 is stupid.

      Randell LlarenaRandell Llarenaپیش 17 روز
    • Riddle me this, if Lebron can guard all 5 positions, why wasn't he able to do so in 2009 when Dwight Howard and Orlando beat them when Cleveland went 66-16 and were supposed to meet the Lakers in the Finals? What about the very next year when Cleveland finished 61-21 and lost to the 4th seeded Boston Celtics? Stop making excuses and lying through omission. Learn the game and about ya boy!

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • Marcellus is a friggin flip flop

    Henry WalkerHenry Walkerپیش 17 روز
  • Kobe had a threepeat and a back-to-back. Like Jordan, Kobe had no weakness. Aside from Jordan, he is the best scorer of all-time. He is one of the best defenders of all time. But why doesn't the media rank him ahead of Magic and Kareem? It is silly. Most players acknowledge Kobe is at least top 3. Yet the media rarely ranks him in the top 5.

    Kyle TKyle Tپیش 17 روز
    • Kobe is definitely above Lebronda but not above Kareem and Magic. I would put him at 5 behind Bill Russell, MJ, Magic, and Kareem in no certain order. Bill Russell will always be the best. Tim Duncan is better than Lebronda.

      Wayne SWayne Sپیش 17 روز
  • why is phil jackson always left out in the discussion of the GOAT. MJ despite of his greatness has neverwon a title without PJ nor has Kobe. On the other hand nobody can say PJ has never won a championship without MJ nor Kobe. PJ is the greatest coach in the NBA and made these players ( including Shaq ) champions . They were very fortunate to have the greatest coach of all time. On the hand LBJ caused non winner coaches to championship rings. The stats showed LBJ has overtaken MJ in all categories ( regular season and playoffs ) while still playing. He will be top 10 in all major categories in regular season and top 5 if not the best in all major categories in playoffs hen he retires. If that is not the GOAT I dont know what is.

    Ricardo SanadaRicardo Sanadaپیش 17 روز
    • i think the proper question is, what is PJ after MJ and what is MJ after PJ?

      Ricardo SanadaRicardo Sanadaپیش 16 روز
    • in the same manner, where was MJ before PJ? did he win a ring? same with kobe and shaq? PJ won 11 championship rings 5 of which were outside of MJ . it just shows PJ can win without MJ which cannot be said of MJ even of kobe. and that is my point, MJ was very fortunate to have been coached by the greatest and winninggest coach of all time. a luxury LBJ hasnt enjoy. This luxury should be considered in the GOAT discussion.

      Ricardo SanadaRicardo Sanadaپیش 16 روز
    • Think about this, what was Phil Jackson before he became head coach of Chicago? Better yet, what was his title before coming to Chicago? You will answer your own question.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • Mj cant hit step back 3s lol He couldnt defend 1-5 at any point of his career

    Grady McKinneyGrady McKinneyپیش 17 روز
    • @1life To live so? Bron was too. Whats that supposed to mean?

      Grady McKinneyGrady McKinneyپیش 17 روز
  • People who still think MJ is still the GOAT don't understand the game. Nobody can do what Lebron can do, not even close. 10 finals appearances. He is the GOAT.

    White TigerWhite Tigerپیش 17 روز
    • @White Tiger ... And you have just proven yourself to be the comments section idiot with that last one you posted. Have a nice life fool!

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 16 روز
    • @Eric Jordan Stephen Curry and Brandon Roy is better than Michael Jordan. Lebron is better than both. All rules of addition mean Lebron is the GOAT.

      White TigerWhite Tigerپیش 16 روز
    • Actually whoever thinks Lebrons the goat is stupid and doesn’t know basketball

      Tammar AlsadkhanTammar Alsadkhanپیش 16 روز
    • @Richard John Reyes ... Wanna know why? Because Russell had weaknesses that could not be overlooked. Lebron has weaknesses as well but people make up reasons for them or overlook them altogether. Jordan had none. That is how you gauge great players first and foremost.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
    • Since you know so much, let's converse on their games in general. Compare weaknesses, position play, etc and go from there. I bet you've never looked no further than what you've seen, was told or think you know.

      Eric JordanEric Jordanپیش 17 روز
  • "Without Lebron, Tye Lue is seen as a stepover for Allen Iverson" that genius 😂

    The RockThe Rockپیش 17 روز
    • The Rock 😂😂😂😂

      CAL-G Pure Vessel E.M.CAL-G Pure Vessel E.M.پیش 17 روز
    • Nothin' but Facts!

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
  • bron could win 10 in a row at this point and still be disrespected

    LawrenceLawrenceپیش 17 روز
    • Because he IS disrespectful...

      Wayne SWayne Sپیش 17 روز
    • Absolutely!

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
    • You are right

      Samuel BowenSamuel Bowenپیش 17 روز
  • Goat is not an official construct. Lebron can be the GOAT like MJ was even though we can’t say he was better then Kareem or Russell

    SpartanK07SpartanK07پیش 17 روز
  • LeBron in 4th qts of Finals 85%, MJ 79%! LeBron also higher 2P% & 3P% in Finals 4th quarters

    Jacob DoehrmanJacob Doehrmanپیش 17 روز
    • @Krazie Genius if you only look at the paper yeah.. but people who actually watched MJ knows that the NBA shortened the 3pt line on his era for 2 years.. but yeah, simpleton like you gonna compare their 3pt% just the same like it never happened.. your brain not capable enough to think harder mr Genius? LOL

      AvaAvaپیش 17 روز
    • @Ava 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....men lie, women lie Jordan numbers don't

      Krazie GeniusKrazie Geniusپیش 17 روز
    • @Ava Exactly!

      UnexpectedWonderUnexpectedWonderپیش 17 روز
    • Uhhh on MJ era you cant double team someone coz its against the rules.. lebron getting all that numbers while being doubled and tripled team.. next...

      AvaAvaپیش 17 روز